He also told us that if we did not order PPV we would retain everything Now that was 5 years ago so it may not apply and I don't have the code and it was for a motorolla box. If any one can get the code plz post it may still work for some boxes.
Cable companies also steal from their customers with their fraudulent billing tactics. Sick of getting fukkked and would now like to do some fukkking. First a foremost , I love the service I am receiving. I perform bandwidth tests daily, and on average receive mbit down and kbits upload. But back on topic, I was recently recieving free extended basic cable do to error on comcasts end I believe.
At first I thought it was included with the apartment building I am in, but one day, it has turned off. My question is this: can Comcast tell if non digital cable is being used in a household without being billed? Also, is there any way to unscramble basic cable from the jack instead of the locked cable switchboard on site. I understand that it is merely a switch of sorts from the cable box.
I don't know about you, but do you really expect everyone to keep their mouths shut after being "raped"? So here's my logic So until the "raping" stops, "hack" away, my fellow "rapees"! The first one sounds more appealing. Especially when there are only a few select channels that I like to watch I sure as hell am not paying for all something channels just so I can have the 5 that I like. The friggin cable is already plugged in for me since I have high speed internet, so I am confused about the part where "stealing" comes in.
I dont go out and steal a Mercedes. Im just going to drive it around and listen to the radio? I can do the same thing in my jeep?! I guess Ill just have to steal it Either that or some morals and values. Last I heard theft was illegal. Posted on Tuesday, February 27, - GMT The friggin cable is already plugged in for me since I have high speed internet, so I am confused about the part where "stealing" comes in.
Well, the stealing comes in where you are not paying for cable video, just the HSD The only reason there is a cable signal going to your house is so the modem can connect to the headend. The tv channels are trapped out so you cant watch them since you dont pay for them. Your logic says that just because the PUD has wires running to my house and they are connected to the transformer that it wouldnt be theft if i go and bypass my meter so i get free electric, i mean why should i pay for power, the wires are there.
Knowingly receiving goods or services of value without paying, is theft, plain and simple. Posted on Tuesday, February 27, - GMT "Well, the stealing comes in where you are not paying for cable video, just the HSD The only reason there is a cable signal going to your house is so the modem can connect to the headend.
Or you're paying for the HSD signal and assume that entitles you to the video signal as well? You're a phuqing moron.
I just do it. The video signal is there and you expect me to just use "phuquing" rabbit ears??????? Who's the moron here? Posted on Tuesday, February 27, - GMT Well, at least I can sleep at night knowing no one's ever going to come knocking on my door in the middle of the night. And whether you want to believe it or not, it's just a matter of time before they catch on.
I guess that still makes you the moron, eh? Posted on Tuesday, February 27, - GMT What is always funny is the flawed logic in people that knowingly take, use or steal what is not theres. Be it passively or aggresivly. If there is video signal coming through the line because the tech didnt trap it out, which he should, then you actively took the line and plugged it into your tv knowing it is not a service that you are paying for.
Thats theft of service. There is a slight grey area there because if you couldnt care less and see no moral issue with it then even if they came to your home and put the trap in your housebox there is a good chance you would go out there, see the trap and take it off yourself and continue to steal the service. I see your point and get what you are saying but they didnt come in, install your HSI then hook up your tvs as well.
You did that. Shame on the tech for not trapping out the video, shame on you for having no morals or values, then coming here to brag about it and defend it. Hopefully if you are older then 12 you are teaching your children or family different then what you are showing them. Probably not though. My wife is a teacher and her kids know her husband works for the cable company, they flat out tell her their parents steal cable. What kind of a role model would I be? Regardless of how you rationalize it, regardless of how you precieve it, its theft, its punishable, your actively hooking up to a service you are not paying for or subscribed to and are fully aware of it.
How that makes it right in your book is what is inherintly wrong with half the population today. Nobody owes you shiitt.
I don't remember saying anything like that, though you are welcome to put words into my mouth if you want.
Jeeez this gonna go on forever isn't it? Somehow we brought morals and values into a conversation about cable. Shame on you! A few comments; Are cable rates too high? It's immature actually. Funny - but immature.
Hey - I read it all. Is Scooby an uptight, foul mouthed, defensive, self absorbed pr! IMO - no Are people on this site going to band together and form a group to pool their skills in order to "Stick it to the cable companies" - no considering a lot of the posts within this thread came from people that are employed by the cable companies.
The cable companies are getting paid for their services. They sit in conference rooms trying to decide what more they can offer and charge more and get a leg up on their competitor - the few that there are. Sorry but that's the American way. Build a better mousetrap and people will beat a path to your door.
Provide these services or for that matter less services for less and you can do it too. Problem is, some companies get too big and too greedy or too beholden to their stockholders.
Until and unless some you out there begin to believe in the Tooth Fairy and Me you will never really be happy - just look at the anger in this thread. You've all been bad and will not get anything but a lump of coal come this Christmas. Shame on you - go get a life - and stop this post for heaven's sake Posted on Wednesday, February 28, - GMT as for those of you who steal analog cable either by sneaking out in the middle of the night to the box or pole which, by the way you do in an effort to not get caught STEALING because you know it's WRONG or those of you who take advantage of an oversight by the tech who forgot to trap out the video, Your game will be over soon because over the next few years there will be less and less analog service, and by it will be all digital and reqire an STB to get anything.
Here in my area we have already started phasing out analog cable a couple channels at a time and will keep doing so until there is no more, and you are SOL. Do I watch them all every day, NO. Does comcast owe me something because I paid for them and didnt use them all everyday, NO. I am paying for the variety and conviniance of the programming that is offered.
If I really only want to pay for a couple beers and the store I am at only sells 12 packs it is my problem to drive to one that sells them 1 at a time. If I really only want to pay for 5 channels then it is my problem to select a programming provider that offers cable channels al-a-carte 1 at a time like C-Band Satellite, they still have lots of free channels, and if you get a VCRS or Digicypher Module you can find providers that offer a-la-carte services. It has me laughing pretty good.
Thank you all. I doubt you could hack a stalk of celery much less an STB. For anyone that steals you reap what you sow. For anyone that thinks they can hack a cable company front end from an STB, you need an education. For the educated posters in this thread I applayd you and your courage to continue to argue with the remaining dimwits.
Just because u cant do it means nothing. Posted on Wednesday, February 28, - GMT I found a site that lists step by step on how to hack a digital box. It took only a hours worth of work and a trip to radioshack but I am happy with the results. Here is the site www.! A poor attempt at an insult - rather childish really. This post has now become nothing more that hurling insults back and forth - not what it was originally intended for - but humorous nonetheless.
I'll leave it there - hurl all you want Snoop. Oh, and by the way - if you read my post I said nothing about hacking STB's.
You are correct however when you state I couldn't hack an STB - I never claimed to know how - but I'm sure I could hack a stalk of celery Sorry - had to add that. Mike - I've heard rumors for years about the al-a-cart style cable where a customer could pick and choose which channels they wanted and only pay for those - a good idea but I don't see it in this area - wish I did.
Most of us are exactly like you - we have channels of sh! As I said - if someone could get the revenue to start a new service like that I liked the beer analogy though - good one. If you need help finishing off that six pack Marty - it seems Snoop is in a perpetual state of being pissed off - makes for a rather large target. I find it funny as well. Have a nice day all.
The tech would be stuck installing a series of narrow-banded traps, and there would need to be a truck roll everytime someone wanted to add or remove a channel, not to mention that the tap location would be a tangled mess worse than they already are of coax and traps. That will never happen on analog cable, but then again analog cable is on its way out the door anyways.
Many people will appreciate your effort. What was that? You are unable to do that? What a surprise!! Poor children in the UK are starving for digital cable and studio is on here wasting bandwidth. Comcast doesn't own the channel content, just their own "access system. Antennas provide another "access system" for the FREE channels.
Then why is it stealing if people access these signals in order to watch the FREE channels? I'm trying to come up with an analogy: Let's say that, for health reasons, the city government of Miami decides to provide FREE water to its inhabitants.
Not a perfect analogy, but I tried. What do you all think? Exclude your premiums as you say. You can exclude the premium channels and PV if you like but all other content outside of that is also paid for. Any provider who drops them do to gouging will also loose all the sports fanatics. Thats why Comcast owns a lot of sports content and tried to buy Disney. If you cant afford them , Own em. So Comcast is paying 25million a year to provide ESPN and some yahoo with a wrench goes out at midnight and hooks himself up.
On top of that this thread is about hacking digital boxes.. Your water analogy bites because water isnt a luxury. A lot of jackasses can tell you that they ARE hacking digital boxes.. Stop being so naive people.. Oh wait Damn it's not fair!
Ya'll are killing me here lol. No matter what you goodie 2 shoes say piracy hurts noone. This society and country is run by corporations and stock holders who are just plain greedy. This didnt stop with the cable company who just happen to be the only service available in my whole state. So now I have a greedy monopoly to deal with just to watch frikkin TV.
I'd rather have it all for nothing than a little for a fortune. Don't listen to the cable guys hear fellaz, they are just afraid of it costing them their pathetic jobs. Anything can be hacked. Remember these words If man makes it, man breaks it. Never stop innovation even if it costs the cable guy his job.
And please, no one is costing me my job. Pretty much everyday I cut illegal drops. As I see them peer out form behind a curtain or flip one of their blinds to watch me. The second I cut the line I hear a noise from the home. Im sure you guys get all ballsy online but when we are at your home or cutting you your all meek little kids cowering in your homes afraid of any kind of confrontation because you all know its ethically wrong and illegal.
Freaking hilarious. Thanks for the daily laughs howver my humble lot of degenerates! Posted on Friday, March 09, - GMT "This society and country is run by corporations and stock holders who are just plain greedy. I don't think I'm greedy, I just don't want to be eating cat food when I'm The greedy people are the people who steal stuff because they expect everything should be free.
Yet I'd bet my house you never once volunteered your time to help a community project. Your time is valuable, but everything else should be free, right? They are both a Federal crime, what's different? If being a goody 2 shoes means being honest and not stealing, I'll wear that badge with honor. As for it not hurting anyone, well I don't know of anybody going to the hospital, but theft hurts everyone no matter what the stolen product is. It's called Capitalism, don't hate the game just because you can't play by the rules This didnt stop with the cable company who just happen to be the only service available in my whole state.
So you're telling me you can't get satellite in your state? What planet do you live on anyway? Now doesn't that make you greedy too? You'd rather have it all sounds pretty greedy to me Don't listen to the cable guys hear fellaz, they are just afraid of it costing them their pathetic jobs.
I'm not afraid if costing me my job. I've been in the business over 21 years now, my job isn't going anywhere. My job may be pathetic in somebody else's opinion, but it's not so pathetic that I have to steal something because I can't afford it. Yes anything can be hacked You talk a big game, but the bottom line is nobody has provided any information on how to beat the system.
What is with all these people that think they deserve free cable just because it's a little spendy, the reason it is more costly than it should be is because of people like them stealling it. Just like in the local supermarket the honest people have to pay more because of the damn theivs. Posted on Saturday, March 10, - GMT I have insight cable and it has been disconnected for months now, only the company never came to pick up the box nor did it unhook my cable on the outside.
I still have my cable internet now a 10 meg connection and my basic digital cable, with local HD stations. Now, I realize that I have either slipped through some loophole here, or they just aren't very good at this stuff.
Previously I was with Comcast in another location, and if your cable was cancelled they could shut off your digital box and cable modem without unhooking from the outside. So what is to stop me from hacking this box, since it is obviously not communicating with the "headender?
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, - GMT " So what is to stop me from hacking this box, since it is obviously not communicating with the "headender? I tried reading through some of the posts on this thread and find my self more lost as I am a novice at this stuff and thats being polite to myself.
Any ideas on how I can get the box I bought to give me a TV signal with the same channels I have on my "legal" box, or better yet some additional channels? Thanks VM. If you had you would not have posted, you would have known you purchased a nice shiny doorstop and not a set top box. Better luck next time, xvxvxvx. Actually this is the first thread I have ever read on this this topic but is there a way to flash the NV memory? Just like a BIOS can be flashed.
Perhaps by the debug port? What would you hope to accomplish? I'm getting and paying for digital cable, the box is a Motorola DCT I just bought a new 37" Sharp LCD. I hooked it up to the raw cable first, and all the analog channels were pretty crummy.
But now, hooked up using the cable box, the regular channels are fine, but the HD channels have dissapeared.
Now, I wouldn't feel too guilty if I were to receive these HD channels, without paying extra to subscribe to my provider's "HD" tier, because I understand that these networks are providing of their prime-time programming in HD over the air. And if these networks are providing HD in their regular programming, and I'm paying for these channels, why should the cable company have a right to rat-hole the HD from them, and resell it as part of a more expensive package?
Are they paying more when the networks broadcast HD over the air? I doubt it. I could, of course, just undo and reconnect the cables when I want to watch these four HD channels. Anybody know of an easier way? Or am I a "thief" for wanting the HD from channels that I'm already paying for? I would gladly trade them back the shopping, Spanish, and Jesus channels that I don't want. I'm already kinda ticked off that this DCT doesn't support stereo sound. Do I have to pay extra for that, too?
Are they going to start charging us separately for color? Gee, I can't wait for them to raise my rates again, and justify it by giving me the Jehovah Witness channel, and maybe some Portuguese soap operas, too. Seriously, anybody know an easy way I can use these four HD channels? Similar to cable modem pirating, bios, phones, etc. Except flashing they just have the chips programmed themselves. Another thing is it legal and would any cable companies actually allow a descrambler box like the one I posted?
Sorry for the amount of questions. Any answers are much appreciated. BTW - This is purely for educational purposes; I'm definitely not going to try any of this. Feed the other leg to your DCT Then you can set your TV to this input and watch the regular channels.
You can swap between the two types of input using your remote. Posted on Monday, April 09, - GMT Anon, The short answer is you could perform all the actions outlined in your lengthy reply to me but it would not achieve your goal. Two way communication is required and you would need to hack into the headend of the cable system itself, good luck with that.
If there are decryption seed keys in the unit itself and the unit at some point must unscrambled the media. Also does the data get encrypted or scrambled again before it must go back to the company? I'm just trying to understand the process. It seems there is very little about details online. Especially when people are just talking about how something works. Why do we build bridges over water when boats are readily available? Why does a rock fall up and not down? Because the cable company must read a hard encoded serial number designation from your box.
Allow me to anticipate your response: Couldn't I just spoof that serial number? Eventually your time will outweigh the value of your effort. Just like this thread Your useless just like this forum. Great White Post Number: Registered: Nov Dreamboxes are legally for sale in stores.
Kudelski chief executive Andre Kudelski told the paper that the group's 'nagravision' encryption system, which has been around for six years, has also come under attack: 'We are dealing with an attack on the first generation of digital systems using this encryption '. Kudelski and Cablecom intend to sue individuals breaking the law in this manner; currently four cases of criminal proceedings are pending in Switzerland.
Posted on Monday, April 30, - GMT i fond a comcast motorola digital cable box i want to use it but i dont kno how when i hooked it up the screen is just black is there a way to use it or should i just toss it First, would this actually work?
Let's assume the person currently subscribes to basic cable, but does not have digital cable. I was wondering if someone else's programmed digital box would give the person who borrows the box digital cable since the digital cable box is already programmed. Mainly if you and your buddy have the same cable provider, but also how far you are from your buddys house.
Sometimes, even if the box is registered to an address across town, it will work, i have taken mine to work 2. To sum this up, if the box lives elsewhere in your neighborhood, there is a excellent chance it will work. If it lives across town, there is a fair chance. If it is from another town, there is little or no chance it will work. And if it from a different cable system it will absolutely NOT work i. Good Luck! Now, I gave this advice to someone who I believe actually wants to share digital cable and the bill with their buddy and it is agreed to both parties just so you know that Comcast, or other cable providers, would not agree with you doing this.
As for the bloodsucking lowlife parasite that reads this and gets the idea to go and steal an STB from someones house and use it yourself, it wont work loser. As soon as the victim reports the theft to the police, or the cable company it will no longer work and you will have committed a nice little set of FELONIES and you will have a Motorola boat anchor. Plus you will get caught and go to jail. Posted on Monday, July 02, - GMT I really don't care too much about hacking, thought it intrigues me what people can do.
I was just wondering, I have a motorolla dct and have hbo and cinemax channels paid for at my house. About a year ago, I moved out from my parents, sad but true with a couple of friends. They had the same comcast cable and same boxes, and had no hbo, no cinemax, but they did have starz and showtime. After a year of living there nothing has changed, channels are still the same for me, hbo and cinemax.
So I guess each box has a card programmed in it I am an UNhacker I just thought it was interesting when it happened Anyway let me know of anything that some intermediate comp users like myself can do for these cable boxes. Posted on Saturday, July 07, - GMT Well Josh, you are more right than wrong there, the cable into the house has nothing to do with the channels you get for digital cable anyways.
You got lucky and your STB worked at a different location, and should continue to do so. You see when you subscribe to a channel the cable company sends a signal out of band to your boxes to authorize that channel, the signal is sent throughout the entire network, but only the box that it is aimed at by serial will respond to it.
So your box is still receiving the channels that it would at your parents house, because it still 'sees' the signals from the headend, and as long as your parents don't take it off their account it will work fine.
But my box is located in S. Florida and I was wanting to use it at college in Alabama. We have comcast extended and highspeed internet already in alabama Is there a way to get it to work? Public New member Username: Jqp One of those, too. The more cun Post Number: 1 Registered: Jul Engineer or not, you have no clue. As mentioned above, you can't say in one breath that ROM is read only, then in another say that it is used to temporarily store movie order information.
You can't have it both ways. There are other kinds of "non-volatile" memory, but they aren't called ROM. So read a book or something before you try to teach others, okay? I have been a computer technician probably since before you got out of elementary school, and it is obvious from your postings that you don't know squat. You claim to be good, but if you are even typical of the quality of engineer the cable companies hire, then it is no wonder they feel they have a privacy problem.
There is another issue that nobody has addressed here: that of the cable companies' own breaking of the law. You talk about the companies polling their equipment for info about ordered movies. Well, folks, guess what? That means not just cable companies, but police too. Polling my cable box is a violation of this law. Resets are a simple and fast way to resolve the majority of these types of issues. Once rebooted, it will take your interactive guide roughly one hour to reload all of the content, but a picture should be present immediately.
If you can't see a channel or content that you're subscribed to, try refreshing your channel listings from My Shaw. Click the link below to learn how. If you do not have an Expander connected to your Digital Box, please perform the following steps to reset your Digital cable box:. If your Digital Box has an Expander External Hard Drive connected to it, please refer to the Related article below on how to reset a digital box with an expander.
Related : How to reset a digital box with an Expander. Did you know? If you are using a Digital Box with the classic guide, the channel guide will display To Be Announced after the reset.
The TV is three feet thick and weighs pounds. The cable or satellite tuner box. You have to lease it from your pay-TV provider for a monthly fee. After decades of stagnation, that could all change this year. These new rules will allow pay-TV customers who use cable, satellite, or phone company services like Verizon FiOS to attach the devices of their own choosing to their cable, without a rented box in between.
The new rules could let people choose their devices and customize their user experience, but still watch all of the TV programming they pay for through the same devices. User interfaces to all of that content could be as varied and customizable as mobile apps are.
In short, new Unlock the Box rules could help make pay-TV service more like the Internet, where many different kinds of devices can connect to access creative content and information and then present that content as the user wishes. Open standards for connecting to communications networks have always promoted innovation. Before , every telephone in the U. While they worked well, those phones had little functionality.
They simply made calls. New rules that let customers get pay-TV service from one company while getting video devices and apps from different, independent companies can release another new wave of innovation.
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